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Wednesday, October 17, 2007



Can't view the source code? WTF? It's not as if the code is decent - there are loads of errors in the markup. Who'd want to use it.

Paul Parkinson

Bwahahah. What kind of moronic statement is that. Someone please hack their crappy site...

Peter Gasston

Oops! I just looked at their source code without authorization. I shall expect a summons to court to arrive shortly.


thank you firefox, i am currently enjoying some html code from the site, what can i say i like to break the rules!


This needs to be updated. If you take a look at their "user agreement", it says nothing about the source code. Maybe they removed it after some emails for peeps like us?


Geoff, the post describes two user agreements. Both of them are bad, but the prohibition on viewing source is in the law firm terms:


They also don't "own all of the code" as this is found in the source and you don't have to look very far to find it.

// OpenPopUpLite 2.0.1 action by Nate Baldwin,, copyright 2004

So, are they claiming that they have stolen this from Nate Baldwin or are they just lying outright.

Either way...they lose.


The irony here is that almost all forms that law firms use are derived from other forms that other law firms use, which in turn... and so on, for decades, if not a couple centuries.

In fact, much of the practice of law benefits from the absence of a strong copyright regime in legal documents, and certainly clients benefit, because the cost to recreate every document from scratch would be substantial, and the re-use of existing forms and other agreements allows good solutions to propagate relatively freely. This raises the standard of practice for the profession as a whole, and (believe it or not) substantially reduces the cost of legal services.

Anon, heh, yeah right!

Odd, my browser must 'view the code' in order the render the page, a virus scanner must 'view the code' to protect my system, are all virus scanners and browsers in violation of copyright? I guess we'll find out what the jury says...


I feel like giving them a phone call just to tell them, that i looked at their source code and even played around with it with Web Developer Toolbar and Firebug.

Oh my God, i feel so terribly ashamed for doing that ;-)


If they don't want their source code viewed, they should take it down hahahah


Putting aside for a moment various comments about how some of the source isn't owned by the website's owners, AND the main point of the post about "browse-wrap" enforceability, but isn't a "license" restriction prohibiting the viewing of HTML source code something a copyright owner could in fact condition a license on, at least under the Copyright Act. (practical reality aside.) If the code was a copyrightable work of that author, a license to display in web browser-rendered form but not in "uncompiled" text seems (to me) like a legal (if not intelligent) license restriction.


Great. Newbie lawyers who got on the Internet yesterday. Just what the world needs. I hope nobody ever views their source code or their web site for that matter.

"You go to hell. You go to hell and die."

Max Powers at

Another case of lawyers making things up as they go. These scam company's must be making truck loads of money to pay for these lawyers. Pretty soon they are going to figure out a way to prevent us from breathing the same air as their clients.


seems the site is down, either they realized how stupid they are or someone showed them..

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