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Monday, September 08, 2014

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Hugo Schooneveld

In the Netherlands the problem of EHS is as serious as in other countries. There is no formal acceptation by authorities, although some research is being done to find out if electrosensitive people can 'feel' the presence of EMFs if they are exposed to EM fields of their own preference. That occurs in their own homes, with portable EMF emitting machinery: in double-blind experiments. Volunteers are being asked now to register as a candidate. Our EHS Foundation has been asked by the scientists to provide addresses of electrosensitive people who might be willing to be tested in this setting. We wonder ...
Hugo Schooneveld

Dianne Wilkins

Like Ed Friedman, I have had a front row seat to Central Maine Power's (CMP) business dealings in our state.
The so-called expert testimony in the wireless smart meter safety case before the Maine Public Utilities
Commission (MPUC) was provided by Exponent, Inc, a consulting firm that works exclusively for industries
who have to go into overdrive to defend their claims of safety.

The world has caught on to Exponent’s lack of credibility and their “sham” scientific reports:

a) 5/20/10 The New York Times, Lawmakers Cast Doubt on the Report That Toyota Called Independent:

Toyota aggressively promoted a 56-page report by the firm, Exponent, to rebut contentions by
safety advocates who said that electronic systems in the automaker’s vehicles were to blame for
accidents
They touted the report as a broad, independent study, when in fact lawmakers and the government’s top
safety regulators concluded that Exponent was not contracted to conduct a broad independent study.

...It’s troubling, because Exponent and Toyota said they were taking a comprehensive look,”
Representative Bart Stupak, a Democrat of Michigan, said at a hearing of a House Energy and
Commerce subcommittee.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/business/21toyota.html

b) 5/20/10 USA Today, Toyota Investigator Exponent Often Defends Automakers:

Exponent… is part of a thriving industry of firms that do research and scientific and engineering
analysis for hire…for companies facing product disputes, government regulation and lawsuits.
Critics claim Exponent will go to any length to get test results favoring its client.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-05-20-exponent20_CV_N.htm

c) David Michaels, Ph.D., M.P.H., Assistant Secretary of Labor for OSHA and author of Doubt is Their
Product: How Industry’s Assault on Science Threatens Your Health:

Exponent, Inc., began its existence as an engineering firm, calling itself Failure Analysis
Associates…assisting the auto industry in defending itself in lawsuits involving crashes…. I
have yet to see an Exponent study that does not support the conclusion needed by the corporation
or trade association that is paying the bill.

...They…go through the motions… salting the literature with their questionable reports and
studies. Nevertheless, it is all a charade. The work has one overriding motivation: advocacy for
the sponsor’s position in civil court, the court of public opinion, and the regulatory arena.

Michaels gives many examples of Exponent’s defense of industry’s bogus claims of safe products:

* asserting the safety of MTBE, the hazardous gasoline additive that has contaminated drinking water
across the U.S., when hired by the manufacturer of the methanol used in making MTBE
* asserting the safety of amusement park rides that expose people to G forces higher than astronauts get,
in response to the Annuals of Emergency Medicine recommending physicians consider these rides ‘‘a
possible cause of unexplained neurologic events in healthy patients.’’ The press release on the Exponent
report for Six Flags Inc. was ‘‘Roller Coasters, Theme Parks Extraordinarily Safe.’’
* asserting that the number of beverages consumed from school vending machines ‘‘does not appear to
be excessive.’’ in a 2005 study paid for by the American Beverage Association
* asserting that perchlorate, a rocket fuel component produced by Lockheed Martin wasn’t dangerous in
response to the National Academy of Science’s conclusion that it causes thyroid disease in infants
* after numerous studies appeared in prestigious scientific journals that linked pesticide exposure to
Parkinson’s, Exponent’s report for the trade association of pesticide producers stated ‘‘the animal and
epidemiologic data reviewed do not provide sufficient evidence to support a causal association”
* asserting that asbestos exposure is far less dangerous than previously believed when hired to defend
the asbestos companies
(see: Doubt is Their Product: How Industry’s Assault on Science Threatens Your Health, Chapter 5, pg
46 & 48) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubt_is_Their_Product

Many scholars and scientist worldwide have studied the issue of useless, biased scientific conclusions that are
only favorable to the funder's who paid for the research, studies, or reports and have uniformly concluded there
is significant funding bias in many fields of research, including the radiofrequency radiation safety research:

• "Do Conflicts of Interest Bias Research?: An Inquiry into the Funding Effect Science, Technology & Human Values"
http://www.tufts.edu/~skrimsky/PDF/Funding%20Effect%20and%20Bias.PDF
• "Science on trial: conflicts of interest jeopardize scientific integrity and public health."
http://www.tufts.edu/~skrimsky/PDF/Science_on_Trial.PDF (pg. 4-5)
• "Source of funding and results of studies of health effects of mobile phone use: systematic
review of experimental studies" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1797826
• "Secret ties to industry and conflicting interests in cancer research."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17086516
• "Mobile telephones and cancer: Is there really no evidence of an association"
www.avaate.org/IMG/pdf/Int_J_Mol_Med_2003_12_67.pdf

Another book, which also documents the industry strategies to use funding biased studies in RF research to convince and mislead governments along with consumers, is by Robert Kane PhD electrical engineer and author of Cellular Telephone Russian Roulette, A Historical and Scientific Perspective.

Dr. Louis Slesin,PhD, publisher of the well known and respected Microwave News, wrote the article "Radiation research and the Cult of Negative Results" http://microwavenews.com/RR.html which depicts the problems created by bad science being promoted and paid for by industries to protect their unsafe product profits.

How long are we going to allow the fox to guard the chicken coop and let industry buy its own science and
product safety assurances? The stakes are at an all-time high with government forced consumption and
exposure to unsafe RF products in our homes, public places, and our schools.

Sissel Halmøy

Fantastic to see the American blogosphere picking up this topic. About the author's comment "transmitters placed closer to living and working environments", I wish to say more about this. Antennas are being put right into consumer products that touch the body like watches, undergarments and even cars -- the tires now send out the same amount as a cell phone call to update users on how much tire pressure is left etcetera. As well, the cars have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, and cars will be turned into hotspots blaring out signal past the boundaries of the car. The metal is certain to create hotpsots outdoors and in the vehicle, too. Many cars now cannot be driven by people who have developed sensitivity to microwaves and they have to get old models. If this trend continues, some will have to discontinue driving to prevent triggers to their condition. We understand that the US's Transportation Ministry proposes that cars broadcast location, speed and direction http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/dot-proposes-mandating-cars-broadcast-location-direction-and-speed Besides the radiation implication of such "vehicle to vehicle communications" this sounds like a crazed scheme from the pages of George Orwell. If this is allowed to happen in America, it will be an excuse for the European Union to do the same.

We in Europe have benefitted from the wonderful work of Ralph Nader, the founder of Public Citizen, on the issue of car and transport safety. We hope to see leadership in the United States on these issues of great importance. The news article above has a link to the rulemaking: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-08-20/pdf/2014-19746.pdf. We intend to make comment but it is of course best if the US government department hears from Americans about the absurdity of this proposal.

I am sad to say, that Norway is not any better. We are the early users of all this new technology.
Thank you for this excellent article!

Ed Friedman

Excellent Guest Post by Deborah. Thanks Deborah and thanks to Public Citizen for beginning coverage of this topic which many of us consider the most toxic threat of our time.

Speaking as a lab rat exposed without my permission to an ever-increasing dose of radiofrequency radiation [RF] I point out the outstanding breach of ethics on the part of utilities, telecommunication companies and of course government regulators for allowing this, nay, encouraging it. I'm shocked [Not!]. Unfortunately it remains our duty, of necessity, to rise up and squash this uncontrolled experiment.

As spokesperson for the Maine Coalition to Stop Smart Meters and lead complainant in a several year old proceeding before the Maine PUC to study health and safety effects of smart meters, we have submitted as evidence some of the best peer-reviewed science out there and testimony not only from a bevy of experts but from many lay witnesses whose lives have been destroyed by the non-carcinogenic effects of RF from smart meters. For carcinogenic effects, we will need to wait for the 10-15 year latency period to fully appreciated the damage done [although we are just starting to see cell phone/brain tumor effects].

One of our evidentiary submissions was the most complete survey to date of smart meter health effects. A few main conclusions were: 1. 42% of respondents began suffering symptoms concurrent with or after meter installation but well before they realized the meter had been installed, and in many cases knew anything about the issue [so much for the psychosomatic argument by utilities]; 2. About 50% of respondents who had used cell phones, computers and wifi without apparent sensitivity, became EHS sensitive after smart meter installation; 3. About 50% of respondents who were already sensitive to RF became more sensitive and 4. Smart meters are clearly acting as a trigger, initiating EHS in many people. We don't need to know the exact mechanism of injury in order to demand these RF emitting and detailed information-gathering devices be removed and replaced with tried and true electro-mechanical analog meters.

References have been made in the Guest Post and comments to the outdated and irrelevant FCC guidelines on RF. Washington DC District Court Judge Weisberg wrote in a recent preemption order [8-14-14] in Murray, et al v Motorola, et al:

Federal law is the supreme law of the land, but there is no constitutional provision that says federal facts are the supreme facts of the land. Federal law can preempt state law, but it cannot preempt scientific fact. The scientific truth, whatever it may be, lies outside of the FCC’s regulations about what is “safe” or “unsafe.


All of our testimony and evidence is available on our website as a public service. Hyperlinks are provided below to those pages.

Having focused here on health and smart meters I close by pointing out the privacy and constitutional issues with smart meters. While no one has yet brought these issues to court, violations of the 4th amendment [warrant-less search and seizure], 5th amendment [illegal takings], and probably some others, are taking place now at a smart meter near you.

Aside from "hack-ability", RF meters easily discern discreet appliance usage within the home and are capable of providing a very detailed view of your activities to anyone with the software to parse it out. Furthermore, utilities in the case of mesh network RF systems have put their detailed information gathering transceiver on the side of your building without permission or compensation. This wouldn't work if it were a cell tower on your lawn!

Opt outs for smart meters only protect EHS folks if there is enough room between neighbors. Opt outs are an unsatisfactory solution in medium and high density dwelling areas. Being forced to pay an opt out fee to avoid harm or threat of harm is extortion as defined by the federal Hobbs Act. Unfortunately with the demise of most citizen grand juries, it takes a prosecutor to bring criminal charges. The same prosecutor for whom gathering your personal information from a smart meter has been described as a "wet dream." The solution unfortunately will be people in the streets.

Thank you.

Ed Friedman

Home http://www.mainecoalitiontostopsmartmeters.org/

Intervener Filed Evidence by Category:
http://www.mainecoalitiontostopsmartmeters.org/2013/04/intervenor-evidence/

Expert and Lay Witness Testimony:
http://www.mainecoalitiontostopsmartmeters.org/2013/02/introduction-to-our-puc-filings-of-expert-and-lay-witness-testimony/

Desiree Jaworski

This an excellent article and it truly raises the question of why other countries are doing more about this than the United States. The Center for Safer Wireless receives phone calls from people and/or meets people seeking help from "microwave sickness" every week. The symptoms are usually one or any combination of these: tinnitus, heart palpitations, headache, toothaches in teeth with mercury fillings, and insomnia. They receive some relief from eliminating, to the extent possible, wireless radiation. This is a health crisis and one that needs to be acknowledged and addressed by our government. The fact that the schools are adding all the wifi routers and wireless devices to the classrooms and hallways without any testing being done on how this may compromise the health of the students and teachers is outrageous and negligent. The Center is in the process of trying to educate the local school boards and parents about the harm this can do to their children. We are very committed to getting this message out to the public.

Justin Padgett

Wonderful article Deborah! We have had hundreds of people contact us at www.texansagainstsmartmeters.com in regards to the "microwave sickness" that you reference in your article. We are being bathed in frequencies daily. Some frequencies are harmonious with life, cells and our bodies; however, many frequencies are not compatible and are harmful to us. There is much to be known in this area. Thousands of studies have already been performed and the information needs to get out there and this is a fantastic platform. Thank you so much for taking the time to discuss this.
Justin Padgett

Daryl Vernon

"(Saskatchewan, Canada has been more aggressive -- announcing the removal of all 105,000 wireless utility meters from their province a few weeks ago.)"

While seemingly a good opportunity to push for examination of deeper issues regarding smeters, their accompanying inquiry will be restricted to fire safety and process issues:

"the health aspects referred to in the Terms of Reference are those that relate to fire. This review was ordered following eight fires that appeared to be connected to SaskPower’s new smart meters. In the interest of public safety, SaskPower is removing the new meters and CIC is investigating the cause of the fires. The review also includes examination of contracting procedures and determination of any avenues for compensation from the manufacturer and/or installer of the meters. Any other investigation would be outside the scope of this review." -
Crown Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan

Anton Fernhout

The post by Deborah Kopald gives a good overview of the alarming situation created by the uncontrolled development of RF technologies. It is hard to understand why our decision makers are so slow in promoting alternative technologies which are more compatible with living beings. I am not only thinking about cable or fiber optic connectivity but also about promoting the new Li-Fi wireless technology.

Our association is lobbying for the establishment of experimental public Li-Fi hotspots in a medium size city in West Switzerland. Unfortunately, as always, things develop very slowly in our country. May be the USA is more daring in embracing new technologies which are safe for our health?

Anton Fernhout
Membre Comité de l'ARA
Association Romande Alerte aux Ondes Electromagnétiques
Switzerland

Iris Atzmon

In Israel, since the National Parents Leadership filed the lawsuit to the Supreme court against the Ministry of Education about Wi-Fi, the awareness is growing slowly. The more alert the parents become, the more they find worrisome reality: in two cities so far, it has been found that the municipalities have hidden information from the public about the results of radiation measurements taken in schools. In one city, 35 schools have been found to exceed the recommended levels of radiation. On TV it was lately revealed, that in one school (in the same city), three girls got leukemia in the same class within one year. One of them died, and her mother understood that 3 in the same class within a year is not a coincidence, and told that also the school principal died of cancer this summer. Since the mother has another daughter in the same school, she is worried but the authorities do not allow her to bring a person to measure the radiation in the school. In another school in the same city, the municipality sent a person to measure radiation and when he came to the school he said he was ordered to measure radiation only in the arts room and he was not ready to do the measurement in the rest of the school. Following these developments, in another city there is a strike in a school, initiated by parents. This is the second city where parents launched a strike (no studies) because of antennas. The parents are asking more questions now, getting involved and some of them are becoming very angry. I believe this trend of growing awareness that we start to see now, will get stronger with time.

Iris Atzmon
Israel, author of:
The cellular, not what you thought!
הסלולרי לא מה שחשבת!

Camilla Rees

"Critique of the National Association of Independent Schools 1-Page Statement on WiFi 'Safety' in Schools by Camilla Rees of ElectromagneticHealth.org and Campaign for Radiation Free Schools. Includes overview of the science showing risks, ways in which other countries are limiting WiFi in schools, and wireless devices for children, known biological effects that impact learning,and recommendations for "20 Elements of an Electromagnetically Clean and Conscious School."
http://electromagnetichealth.org/electromagnetic-health-blog/nais-critique/

Terri Keller

Excellent article, Deborah. I'm so glad you mentioned the flaccid FCC guideslines on radiofrequency radiation. Since my area of speciality is "smart" meters, I'm pasting my comment as it pertains to "Spy and Fry" meters and those ridiculous guidelines:

What irresponsible power companies that put up "smart" meters won't tell you is that the FCC guidelines don't cover "non-thermal" damage. What does that mean? Non-thermal damage is done via non-ionizing radiation. What kind of damage? DNA breakage, leaks in the blood/brain barrier, and chromosomal damage.

So what kind of mechanism does the FCC cover? THERMAL damage. In other words, it measures the radiofrequency radiation (RF or RFR) emitted from a "smart" meter, and sees how HOT it makes a target. What does this mean? Well, you all know that cell phones are causing brain, ear, eye, and breast cancer (women sometimes put their cell phones in their bras). That is certainly not being caused by how HOT the cell phone makes your brain, eyes, etc. It's because the RFR is damaging your cells! And "smart" meters can emit over FORTY TIMES MORE RFR than a cell phone (http://www.committeetobridgethegap.org/pdf/110212_RFrad_comments.pdf)!

I would not suggest continuing to rely on the power companies, who have done NO STUDIES ON HUMAN SAFETY for "smart" meters. Rely on doctors and scientists who have studied the subject for years. Don't put your family and home ("smart" meters start fires, too) in jeopardy - please study the subject. When you find out how dangerous "Spy and Fry" meters are, go to www.stopsmartmeters.org to find out how to get yours off your home ASAP - your famiy's lives may depend on it!

Btw, if you do have a safe analog meter still on your home, please put a sign below it that says "DO NOT REPLACE METER. We refuse the 'smart' meter due to healthy, safety, and privacy issues." Stick that in a gallon ziplock and place it below the analog where both can be read. You can also find more ideas about how to protect your analog at http://stopsmartmeters.org/defend-your-analog-meter-main-index/. Thank you and God bless.

Susan Foster

For all the reasons listed in Deb Kopald's brilliant analysis of the disconnect between our current laws and public policy favoring the telecommunications industry over public health, this should be Public Citizen's number one focus.

In 2003 I organized a brain study of six California firefighters who lived with a cell tower 9' from their fire station. They were experiencing profound neurological symptoms such as disorientation, memory loss, sleep disruption, cognitive impairment and severe mood swings. Gunnar Heuser, MD, PhD conducted the study using SPECT brain analysis and T.O.V.A. testing. We found brain abnormalities in all six firefighters, though one was significantly less affected than the others. This firefighter was a captain who had the ability to schedule his time away from the station as much as possible.

We found delayed reaction time, lack of impulse control, and measurable cognitive impairment in all six men. Each one of these men had been through rigorous physical and cognitive testing before being hired. Even though the towers have been decommissioned, all the men still complain of memory loss.

Considering firefighters are the "strongest of the strong" among us, this small pilot study may serve as a warning for what lies ahead for humanity if unchecked proliferation of microwaves under the creative advertising guise of "faster and therefore smarter" is not taken on as Public Health Threat #1.

Sincerely,

Susan Foster, MSW
Adviser, EM Radiation Research Trust
Author, Res. 15 passed by the IAFF - 2004
Honorary Firefighter, San Diego Fire Dept

Eileen O'Connor

The insurance industry are also highlighting concerns regarding this very real and urgent situation. A report by Swiss Re SONAR on Emerging risk insights released in June 2013 provides the following statement:

Unforeseen consequences of electromagnetic fields Potential
impact rated as HIGH and likely to hit the casualty area of insurance business.

Concerns about potential implications for human health, in particular with regard to the use of mobile phones, power lines or antennas for broadcasting. Over the last decade, the spread of wireless devices has accelerated enormously. The convergence of mobile phones with computer technology has led to the proliferation of new and emerging technologies. This development has increased exposure to electromagnetic fields, the health impacts of which remain unknown.
Liability rates likely to rise in next 10 years

Sincerely,

Eileen O’Connor
Director
EM Radiation Research Trust
www.radiationresearch.org
Sent from a hardwired computer

The EM Radiation Research Trust is an educational organisation funded by donations. An independent Charity Registered No. 1106304 © The EM Radiation Research Trust 2003-2004

Deborah Rubin

Over the past five years, I have encountered the same resistance to information that you write about above from the School District of Hillsborough County (8th largest in US), the Florida Department of Education and the Florida Department of Health when questioning them about the health consequences of Florida's Education Technology Modernization Initiative which mandates seamless wireless connectivity throughout the schools and encourages the children to bring their own devices. Perhaps the latter is an attempt to relieve themselves of some future liability; the devices will have belonged to the children, not the school system. Inexplicably to me, over those same 5 years, the microwave radiation exposure in my children's schools has increased exponentially--this is the first school year with the new routers, 3 antennae each in many of the classrooms. Never once has the health information been publicly discussed; the district has never explained how they have come to the conclusion that wireless radiation is safe for children in spite of the links to thousands of studies and many expert opinions I have given them which clearly show harm. These, our Educators, refuse to do what they are allegedly teaching our children to do: to think critically for themselves; to grow into caring, responsible citizens and people; to be brave and ethical; to be leaders into a better future. Common Core, the new public school paradigm, is supposed to be based on "evidence" and "higher order thinking skills." It is ironic to me that the Core requires an infrastructure [microwave] that will harm our future higher thinkers, despite the journals and journals of evidence that it is contraindicated for children, and that our Educators will not acknowledge the harm or question the Core--even for the sake of the Children, the most vulnerable among us.

Similarly there is no impetus to educate the students or the community, as the Public School usually would, regarding other health topics: hygiene, drugs, diet, reproduction, other disease prevention. I have to wonder why.

And most disturbing of all, our Educators simply do not want to know. For that matter, nor do the PTA's from my experience, and nor do most parents. But who will Teach them?

So, after spending these last 5 years trying to inform and wondering why the teachers and administrators refuse to acknowledge the evidence I have put right under their noses, I have no answer. But I think I have identified the condition: Willful Blindness.

Margaret Hefferman brilliantly wrote about this all too common human condition, apparently affecting even our academics, in her book, Willful Blindness: Why We Ignore the Obvious at Our Peril. I highly recommend the book to all School Administrators, but will leave you with a few pithy quotes and an appeal for the children and your staff:

"Since they could have known, they were responsible."

"the central challenge posed by each case was not harm that was visible -- but harm that so many preferred to ignore"

""conscious avoidance", and "deliberate indifference". What they all have in common is the idea that there is an opportunity for knowledge, and a responsibility to be informed, but it is shirked."

"sheer utility of willful blindness that sucks us into the habit in the first place"

"That willful blindness is so pervasive does not mean that it is irretrievable. Some of the most inspiring people in this book are those who have had the courage to look -- a fierce determination to see. That is what makes them remarkable. They aren't especially knowledgeable, powerful or talented. They're not heroes; they're human. But their courage in daring to see reveals a central truth about willful blindness: We may think being blind makes us safer, when in fact it leaves us crippled, vulnerable, and powerless. But when we confront facts and fears, we achieve real power and unleash our capacity for change."

Teri Bloom

As a resident of NY City and a certified EMF & Wireless Shielding Consultant, I'm extremely concerned about:

1) the density of the city's wireless infrastructure in the form of cellphone towers and public wifi
hotspots, all of which emit constant radiation and 2) the complete absence of governmental oversight in regulating the permissible amounts of wireless radiation that our cities, towns and schools are bathed in.

To add in 10,000 wifi hotspots to NYC's existing telephone booths is the very worst of ideas as more and more people would likely get radiation-related disease or sensitivities. Because wireless radiation is invisible, people have no idea that this technology is harmful to health because everyday exposures are cumulative. Electrically sensitive people are already reacting to lower levels of wifi in public areas, so by adding industrial strength wifi on the streets we can expect to see more people developing sensitivities.

Independent medical science has deemed wireless radiation a health risk for all as evidenced in
the BioInitiative Report, www.BioInitiativeReport.org. This report compiles 1800 medical and scientific studies by 24 doctors and scientists around the world, delivering the verdict that all wireless technology is problematic in multiples of ways for our health, and even worse for fetuses and children. This report should be read by all medical doctors and health researchers.

Fortunately there are a few solutions to implement for those that are concerned:
a) A building biologist or a wireless shielding specialist such as myself can measure indoor wireless radiation and use shielding materials to block out most of the radiation.
b) People can relocate to a more remote area if they can't tolerate the outdoor levels in cities.
c) Citizens should press for proper laws to be put in place to eliminate wireless in public places to protect people sickened by microwave radiation so they can freely participate in society.
d) The EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) should send out a memo to all employers introducing the concept of Electrical Hypersensitivity (EHS) and explain that many people are sensitive to wireless radiation and that they must be accommodated on demand. If workplace devices were hard-wired there would be greater workplace productivity as workers would be more alert and less fatigued. So many people sit close to routers or have one in a drop-ceiling above their head, which can be very tiring.

Finally, our medical doctors must learn about the extreme and compounded health effects of wireless radiation, because so many patients are presenting with fatigue, insomnia, headaches, tinnitus, infertility, and neurological symptoms that can't be connected to a biological cause. Doctors could help so many people that are healthy but suffering from EHS… and avoid putting these folks through extensive testing and giving them medicine that they may not need. Doctors should be advising patients to turn off wireless routers and devices when they are not in use and especially before bed.

It was heartening to see Public Citizen covering this topic and am hopeful that mainstream media will begin reporting on this subject. I really hope that other forums like yours will follow with like-minded articles. Thanks so much!

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