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Sunday, December 03, 2006

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Joseph

Lawmaker take an oath to protect The U.S. Constitution. Like Martha Stewart Any lawmaker who signed or even a statement signed against ones right to the protection of The U.S. Constitution needs investigating. Help Me Help You Should I file Large suit against AAA When I win I will donate every sent. This is not about money but Honor, Respect, Truth, and Justice. Please Post yes or no

Joseph

AAA Client plead GUILTY to HOME REPAIR FRAUD AAA maliciously slanders Victims/Single Father, 4 and 9 year old then making victims pay AAA client/Contractor Guilty of Home Repair Fraud $5,000.00 plus AAA arbitration fees. Yes AAA makes the victims pay $5,000.00 to AAA/client the criminal plus arbitration fees. AAA false statement also used against THE STATE OF ILLINOIS Winnebago County States Attorneys Office to get AAA/clients indictment charges dropped. Even with AAA fraud statement maliciously slandering single father ,4 and 9 year old was not enough Father has overwhelming amount of evidence also full investigation by one of the top 20 in the fortune 500 which will back father 100% on fraud charges. All based on facts. AAA/client PLEAD GUILTY TO HOME REPAIR FRAUD. FACT PROVE AAA MALICIOUSLY used award to give perception that father breached contract and benefited to award AAA/client $5,000.00 nominal Damages Both AAA and client profit from victim. Full story more malicious then one would make up. AAA award 5/12/2006 AAA denied all father request and complaints telling father NO ATTORNEY DARE FIGHT AGAINST AAA. Father has been fighting alone since 5/12/2006 and has been able to get Full Investigation ,Warrant issued, charges, 2nd investigation indictment and on 5/5/2008 A plea of Guilty by Indictment from AAA/client for Home Repair Fraud.. [Winnebago County Illinois Court Case 2007 CF 01469] Overwhelming facts. NO BUT ANDS OR IF ABOUT IT. Family lost over $37,000.00, B Better living conditions, been Falsely Accused, Family Name Slandered and had to Pay AAA fees and AAA client Guilty of Criminal/fraud $5,000.00 Father will now fight against Goliath

Joe

AAA Arbitration is to CLEAR not ADD cases to a judges docket. "A judge would have the incentive to find that class arbitration is not allowed, knowing that doing so would likely end the case and clear a case from his docket". AAA-Integraty.-NON-PROFIT is how much money is to be made. "In contrast, the arbitrator knows that if he finds against class arbitration, the case will end and so will his ability to make money. If class arbitration is allowed, the case will continue, and the arbitrator will continue to make money". What is
AAA's definition of a B_.S_. Degree?
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Mike Quirk

Roger has provided an important and provocative analysis that we practitioners who represent consumers must give serious consideration. In light of the data Roger has gathered and analyzed, consumer class action lawyers must give serious consideration to the pros and cons of the judicial and arbitral forum before proceeding with particular cases.

What follows is meant as a critique not of Roger's analysis, but of the actual arbitral system he describes. This arbitral system for deciding when cases may or may not proceed as class actions raises serious questions of sensibility, legitimacy, and ultimately sustainability.

1. Sensibility

The first step in this process is a "clause construction phase," where the arbitrator decides if a clause allows for class arbitration. But, as described, the case only gets to the arbitrator for this determination if the ARBITRATION SERVICE has already determined that the clause is silent concerning class actions (which it is not in the vast majority of cases where companies now expressly ban class claims). Putting aside the appropriateness of the service making this pre-threshold determination, what is an arbitrator to do in "interpreting" a provision already found to be silent on the subject at issue?

More fundamentally, what is the sense of looking to a contract to determine what procedures will govern a dispute? Can any of us imagine a court or other competent decision-maker deciding class certification, discovery rights, or rights to present testimony by looking to a private contract rather than neutral and generally applicable rules? It is an indisputable fact that consumer arbitration clauses are written by businesses. Having already allowed the business party to pick the forum, why would we let the party to a dispute write the rules by which the dispute is going to be resolved?

2. Legitimacy

Roger accurately describes a system in which decision-makers have a strong financial stake in the outcome of make-or-break determinations in these cases. If an arbitrator is paid by the hour for his or her work (which they typically are), then they have a strong financial incentive to rule at the "clause construction" and class certification stages in a way that will keep the proceedings going. Conversely, an arbitration service that also is paid based on the volume of cases it handles, may have an incentive in making its pre-threshold determinations to rule in a way that will keep its volume customer (the business side in a consumer case) satisfied with its services.

The existence of these incentives calls into serious question the legitimacy of this system for deciding disputes. The fact that one of the two identifiable incentives would favor allowing class proceedings will not in all cases lead to a "pro-consumer" result. In cases where the normal class certification criteria, such as adequate representation of the class, are not satisfied, it is not in consumers' interests to have their claims resolved with possibly preclusive effect.

These concerns over apparent or actual bias are not, of course, unique to class action cases, though the class action setting may magnify the effect of such bias.

3. Sustainability

Finally, given that consumer arbitration is entirely the creation of corporate contracts, how long can a system where consumers consistently prevail on class determinations survive? The results Roger describes may be one reason that the vast majority of consumer arbitration clauses now expressly ban class arbitration. If consumers are winning more in arbitration than in court, then companies would have no incentive to continue requiring arbitration in cases where class-wide relief is available.

Of course, given the serious legitimacy concerns this system raises, that may be the most desirable result from the perspective of a justice system's goals in any event.

-Mike Quirk

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