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Wednesday, October 17, 2007

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jf

Not only did I fill out the comment form, but I pasted the source code of the user agreement into one of the boxes. Along with some Oh Noes!!!!

Erik

Here's their contact page: http://www.cybertriallawyer.com/legal-matter

Fill it out with your contact information and list them as the opposing party and the legal issue as "I looked at your HTML."

Idiots

And these idiots specialize in Internet Law!

Dave

I don't see anywhere where you got permission to link to their site! I hope they sue you!

Matt

Interesting...

So how does anyone with legal knowledge know how simply *looking* at their source code infringe their copyright?

I don't think anyone would contest that HTML would fall under copyright laws, but merely viewing it is a new one on me!

Incidentally, I used wget -O to get the HTML directly. In case you are wondering: its an old-school HTML TABLE layout nightmare, although they do at least use ALTs for their images!

thanks

i suggest we inform these poor people of their own source code via their contact form....

dave

OMG I'm in ur SITE and I'm reading ur SOURCE!!!

quique

seems the site is down, either they realized how stupid they are or someone showed them..
pwned!!!

Max Powers at http://ConsumerFight.com

Another case of lawyers making things up as they go. These scam company's must be making truck loads of money to pay for these lawyers. Pretty soon they are going to figure out a way to prevent us from breathing the same air as their clients.

doih

Great. Newbie lawyers who got on the Internet yesterday. Just what the world needs. I hope nobody ever views their source code or their web site for that matter.

"You go to hell. You go to hell and die."

duh

Putting aside for a moment various comments about how some of the source isn't owned by the website's owners, AND the main point of the post about "browse-wrap" enforceability, but isn't a "license" restriction prohibiting the viewing of HTML source code something a copyright owner could in fact condition a license on, at least under the Copyright Act. (practical reality aside.) If the code was a copyrightable work of that author, a license to display in web browser-rendered form but not in "uncompiled" text seems (to me) like a legal (if not intelligent) license restriction.

inno

If they don't want their source code viewed, they should take it down hahahah

Ralph

I feel like giving them a phone call just to tell them, that i looked at their source code and even played around with it with Web Developer Toolbar and Firebug.

Oh my God, i feel so terribly ashamed for doing that ;-)

Anon, heh, yeah right!

Odd, my browser must 'view the code' in order the render the page, a virus scanner must 'view the code' to protect my system, are all virus scanners and browsers in violation of copyright? I guess we'll find out what the jury says...

jsw

The irony here is that almost all forms that law firms use are derived from other forms that other law firms use, which in turn... and so on, for decades, if not a couple centuries.

In fact, much of the practice of law benefits from the absence of a strong copyright regime in legal documents, and certainly clients benefit, because the cost to recreate every document from scratch would be substantial, and the re-use of existing forms and other agreements allows good solutions to propagate relatively freely. This raises the standard of practice for the profession as a whole, and (believe it or not) substantially reduces the cost of legal services.

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